I'll Never Remember My Introductory

I'll never forget my introduction toand so m my good friend phil gilpin, who runs a catalist, which back them i alit v fest. We were doing retreats in costarika at that time. He kind of looks at me and with a kind of brutal honesty, he says, you know, i don't know exactly why i'm here because i don't believe in any of this ship. And then we went swimming. It was one of actually my favorite introductions er to a writer, because it's really rare that somebody is is that blunt and honest with you.