Alex Buder Shapiro, Chief People Officer at Jasper, joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about how AI is reshaping organizational design, the shift from early-career jobs to early-career talent, and how HR teams can lead through experimentation and workflow innovation.
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(11:11) First AI Workflow: School Calendar Automation
(12:53) What Jasper Does & Their AI-First Approach
(16:44) AI Adoption vs Transformation Across the Org
(18:29) Provocation: HR Isn’t Leading—It’s Catching Up
(21:25) The Lightbulb Moment: AI's Workflow Implications
(23:21) Induced Demand & Why Work Will Expand, Not Shrink
(26:33) Efficiency Creates Possibility: Redefining Roles
(28:31) Reskilling at Scale & Changing Comfort Processes
(31:09) Why Top-Down Reskilling Won’t Be Fast Enough
(33:34) Real-Time Learning Through LLMs
(34:45) Platform Gaps in Vibe Coding & Training
(35:49) Experimentation Culture at Jasper
(37:22) Prototyping in EPD vs People Teams
(38:40) Early Prototypes in L&D: Podcasts, LM Tools, Interactive Sites
(40:40) How Jasper Unblocked HR to Prototype with AI
(43:45) Entry-Level Work Is Changing, Not Disappearing
(45:17) Learning, Not Losing: The Early-Career Advantage
(47:36) Literacy, Writing & Resistance to New Tech: Historical Parallels
(49:22) Soccer Formations & Reimagining Org Design
(50:45) Beyond the Pyramid: Nimble, Equally Leveled Teams(51:32) Rapid Fire Questions
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