Men Don't Have a Giant Church Bag

The idea of men don't have a church bag has been around for a few years between you and I way before you had the idea for this podcast. The most I ever saw my father carry to church was like maybe a Franklin planner, you know, that's like a heavy day. And I've got my Franklin planner and like a weird gold plated pen that I will occasionally like pointed things. So just this idea that our church experiences are so different, even just from like a physical standpoint, I mean, it tugged at her twin set in the most like in just a very palpable way she could be.