As a kid, I would draw all the time and I think I very quickly understood also from some parental nudges that that was not a serious career. My mum said, you know, it's really, really artistic. And she was like becoming a plastic surgeon. Hello. The most artistic of doctors. So yeah, I just understood that wasn't serious. But in some ways that also is the place where art and numbers really do intersect, right? Like every artist, even the ones who hate data and don't think of themselves as numbers people at all, everyone has to figure out how he or she can make it come together each month.

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