Contradicting the Nafs in Laziness From Thaat

A lot of stuff that we bring up is actually Terbia oriented, right? Terbia means like you take a human being and you try to improve that person overall. A lot of the vast majority of people seek it out in the form of counseling, wellness, and life coaching. And I was sort of almost repulsed at the immediate sound of it, because it's not my thing. But they sat and they kept telling me, listen, that all of most of what you're saying, people seeking it out. So something where the wellness and the counseling is not divorced from Dean, it's infused. Is that true? Who knows? Tell me what you all think.