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Munk Dialogue with Dmitri Trenin: the threat of nuclear war

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Ukraine

I don't think that Russia will build, you know, a pro-Russian Ukraine. It's more likely that if the new territory is to be added, they are more likely to join the Russian Federation than to constitute a separate state. And then you will have the rump Ukraine, which will be as anti-Russian as you can imagine and it will not be a member of NATO because NATO will not put its troops in the line of fire. So they will be a de facto ally without a Western commitment to send forces to defend or to fight in Ukraine. That may be the future,. an armed peace, if you like, or an armed ceasefire, not really peace, an armed

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