I was in new york city, i was 28, and i was on my own for the first time. I had all this time to go like, oh, i'm free to be an atheist if i want. And i dabbled with that. It feel right because, i mean, we can get into that if you want. But, like, i, for the first time, allowed myself to entertain any possibility,. which is actually closer deliberation and enlightenment than i was when i was religious. That's what crashing is about.

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