I think the label is actually part of the problem. So it's that I know how to talk, where you do things like don't take corporate PAC money,. When you knock them, doors of no party preference voters who think the Democratic Party is too beholden sometimes to corporate power open for you. And then those conversations happen. You don't win every voter because you don't compromise your principles, but you get to have the conversation and sometimes that gets you the vote. Where are you most vulnerable? The thing I hear the most is the Orange County is so tough. What's going to happen if you're not running? We have to win back the house.

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