The Shimabara rebellion is on its way, this rebellion. And as you say, it's taken up. Who takes it up first? Can you tell us a bit more about how it grows really? I think one of the things that's quite contentious about the Shimabara Rebellion is whether it is primarily even purely economic because people are being squeezed in this way for their tax money. Whether there is also a sense of illegitimacy about what's going on. Because some of these people are still on the quiet Christians, if you've had your religion banned, you may not necessarily feel religiously motivated at the beginning. But the symbols of your religion become really powerful symbols of resistance

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