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29: Jamie Metzl - The Bio-Hacker will see you now, Ready or Not
The Portal
What if Such a Game Doesn't Help?
i don't know whether i want these things investigated, not investigated. In all of these circumstances, my claim is there is no good place to stand. There's a need for an important debate. And if we're getting scientific data that is threatening those norms, we should think of that scientific data as itself threatening. I enjoy both of their podcast but it was painful to sit watch for people who don't know what they are talking about.
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