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"I would sa, let litly, and honestly, we're ready. Think the ability to er, to label objects and er and place them into classes is what math is," he says. "So on that point, what does it mean? To be object first versus information first?" He continues: "There's always memory, but it's not actionable, yes? And then it's not information."
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