The average podcast episode among those two millions gets like ten down loads. If i can get to that level some day, i'm gright. You always have to be innovating and switching up what you do. And then your audience finds you. By the way, though you've done a really phenomenal job of getting out there, going on other people's pocasts, doing things to build your audience. It's actually how we got in touch. Remember you, dida, 20 14 ted x, san diego, youere the closing act. I was the opening act,. cause i knew i couldn't atop what you were going to do. So i said, jord

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