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Is There a Moment When You Need to Speak Up?
David Perry: I like so much about the story is that there was this moment where someone else pushed you back on your heels a little bit. He says it's cognitively convenient to just tell other people, oh, I need you to speak up. It's interesting that David in our work doing transformation in large companies, though we are not usually talking life and death. "I think it's just fundamentally laziness," he adds.