It's hard because the medication thing and not wanting to be medicated like a zombie is something that I get all the time all the time. And ECT, none of that we just don't have enough information haven't seen them in any sort of interventions to see how they respond to it. In the 60s, when I wasn't alive then, but from our research on mental health and our education, we know that this was something that that threat is not empty at this point in time. Well, if you want to hear more, listen to our Shutter Island episode where we go to town on the time period and its treatment of mental health in these very specific ways.

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