You Had the Ukrainians Swearing Blind, It Wasn't Them

There were all the kind of people on social media who were happy to take these little kind of directions. But since then, I think it's been fairly clear that first of all this did happen. And in fact, the most recent Naked Prabda podcast has some very interesting conversations with Michael Colborne of Bellingcat. They're actually, even if Kiev did not in any way initiate or sanction this operation.