Speaker 3
you know, it was so it was very, very exhilarating rather than exhausting. It's a spiritual almost, you know, of exhilaration to play those - Yeah, it
Speaker 2
is. I mean, she's somebody who, the character is, she's almost like the creative process itself. She's exacting, she's obsessive, she's passionate, but she's very strung. She's at a point of, I think, psychological and physical and career change. And in a way, is she the agent of her own downforce? She's a very complicated person in a set of very complicated relationships, like a relationship with her partner, her wife, Nina Plais. It's really complicated and layered. And, you know, and so that was a joy to play those things. It was so beautifully written by Todd. And, you know, he's such an amazing director and that he can, he's able, I guess, because he acted himself, he's so alive to everybody's point of view. So from take to take, the thing just evolved. It was really, um, it was, I don't know how else to describe it. I still haven't
Speaker 3
processed. It was really exciting. Nina, I don't think there's a better scene partner in the world than Kate Blanchett. Oh, Nina Hoss, I think you
Speaker 1
could be right. I was very lucky. I was very lucky. Oh my gosh. Yeah.