Yeah, I got to think that Yimbiism probably has more populous support. It's just not as well funded. Like I said, there's misinformation about funded misinformation to convince people that, like you said, I like the car analogy. Hey, you're better off if there's not competition, which there's no way that that could be the case, but people are buying it.

Yeah. And typically there is huge, huge funded opposition in California towards like Yimbiism in general. Some of the best funded foundations in this country spend many millions of dollars per year, specifically on trying to like counter the Yimbi narrative, on funding organizations, to block home building, et cetera. There's orders of magnitude more money in the more traditional so-called equity space where you, I don't really know. I mean, like there, it doesn't make sense. They basically just like focus on like red control and 100% affordable housing with like public subsidies, but that doesn't work. So yeah, I'm being incoherent now, but there is a lot of funded opposition is what I'm saying. Yeah. It's not, I'm picking up like you're putting down. Yeah.

It sounds like a big part of this then is creating an actual sort of active dare, I say, almost sort of a punk Yimbi movement or a bunch of Yimbi punks go to Yimbi punk shows for pro Yimbi causes and support their Yimbi politicians. How do you do that?

Well, that's kind of what we're doing, right? So like a few things. One, that was actually like the initial idea behind SF Barf like the pro Yimbi group that Sonia started before we started Carla. Yeah, we think I'm like, oh, it's called SF Barf. Now, and we'll think we're developer shows because like we're not. And Sony and I different, but like some countercultural authorities in a way like we don't look like we were for developers and we don't. Unfortunately, like that didn't work. We're still lambasted as being developer shows or taking all this money from the real industry and all the rest. It was never true. Now people might say that we're like, if Shills for Big Tech, you know, strike gave us some money. Like the big tech companies like Google and Apple and they're just doing PR. Like kind of actually getting money to like effective housing organizations.