How Do You Tell People to Begin?

"I'm in the second mountain now. And I recognize very clearly what that first mountain was," he says. "You get to the top of it, and it's unsatisfying, or you fail, you fall off." His name comes from a Bible passage: Orpa goes back the other way; his pee got put in the wrong place. 'Where there goes, I will go. Your people will be my people where you die there'

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