Codified Gestures: A New State

I'm less interested in them because they feel new state. How would you categorize something that almost feels like it's in between? Let's say like the choking symbol. We've learned like this is a codified thing that there was an active kind of campaign to teach. If you put your hands around your throat, that tells somebody else that you're choking and you can't breathe and you can’t speak. But we naturally would probably do that if we were struggling to breathe. Right. So they're conventional and they act and they're learned. Like those are definitely learned. Yeah.