Anonymous question: How do we make people care more about a diction that isn't related to substances, you know, that it is such a strong label. I hear some real, deep compassion and thoughtfulness behind your question. And i fully agree with that thrust, that there is a lot of value to be gained from d stigmatizing and being more thoughtful and compassionate about what some people call behavior ll adictions.
Carl Erik Fisher is a psychiatrist, bioethicist and recovering alcoholic who has spent years tracing the history of addiction. His new book is The Urge: Our History of Addiction, a sweeping study of the issue and an urgent call for a more expansive, nuanced and compassionate view of one of society's most difficult challenges. In conversation with Carl is physicist, oceanographer and science presenter, Helen Czerski.
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