By all accounts, Gavin Matts has carved a successful path for himself as a comedian, actor and writer at the young age of 30. But he can’t shake the feeling that he came into show business at the tail end and he’s mourning the possibilities that no longer seem as attainable as they once were. Gavin and Marc talk about the changes in the world of comedy, the struggles of local comedy clubs, and the rise of arena shows. Gavin also explains how he was influenced by the pace of comedians like Todd Barry, Hannibal Buress and Chelsea Peretti, and why, in the end, he probably should have been a fisherman.

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