The Difficulty of Weaning Ourself Off Moscow's Fuel

I was nodding vigorously and that's because what Demito was saying was resonating so loudly inside my head. And I think again, perhaps this is easy to say in retrospect, but we did make a series of assumptions about what Russia would be like as an energy partner and as a business partner. And those assumptions turned out to be wrong. So we now have to reorient ourselves away from Russia economically and politically in sort of emergency fashion. And that isn't very easy to do.