The Power of the Conversation With the Marks

I would say it starts with curiosity. A lot of people, myself included grew up thinking, well, if I'm writing something, it is to be judged and measured according to whatever the rules are. And there's another element of that, which is they're making things, but they are kind of bringing their own approach to it. It's like there's a way to make things and you can do the prescribed thing, learn about it. Wow. I feel like I've never dropped before. I'm like, I want to go draw. And I draw every day.