Ozmat khan has investigated civilian casualties in us. Military operations for the new york times. We're trying to figure out if the pennagon is capable of waging its ongoing war on terror without killing innocent people. ozma: "You can see patterns, you can start to see what's happening"
President Biden gave strict orders to avoid collateral damage during a raid on an ISIS leader. Civilians still died, but it might be a sign of a shift at the Pentagon.
This episode was produced by Victoria Chamberlin, edited by Matt Collette, engineered by Paul Mounsey, fact-checked by Laura Bullard and hosted by Sean Rameswaram.
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