Today, I have the privilege of speaking with Immaculée Ilibagiza, an extraordinary witness to faith and resilience. She survived the 1994 Rwandan Genocide by hiding in a tiny bathroom for three months with seven other women. When she emerged, she faced the devastating loss of her family and friends, who had all been murdered. Immaculée shares her incredible journey of faith, hope, and forgiveness, even as she came face to face with those responsible for her family's deaths. Her story is both heartbreaking and inspiring, and I’m deeply honored to have this conversation with her. I hope it moves you as much as it did me.

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00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:46 - Immaculee’s Background

00:05:50 - Marian apparition

00:11:16 - CrowdHealth

00:12:15 - Franciscan University

00:13:17 - History of tribal hatred

00:17:36 - She only had a rosary

00:20:46 - Lost 50 pounds

00:24:02 - “What changed was my heart”

00:26:44 - They came to search, I knew my life was over

00:37:56 - Meditating on Jesus’ death

00:40:26 - A million people dead…

00:48:30 - Media fomenting hatred

00:58:23 - Patterns in the killers?

01:05:03 - Her first job afterwards

01:13:10 - Encounter with rosary

01:25:31 - American Media