How Did You Get These People to Talk to You?

The people you are interviewing speak for themselves and we ought to hear what they're saying that guy he could not put the poop back in the goose and it was not a good look for him yeah I guess all the time well how did you get these people to even talk to you and the answer is that they live in a bubble where their ideas have just never been challenged certainly not to their face. They simply assumed like I think that when we sat down to talk about these issues the people that I'm talking to they couldn't even imagine that anyone would actually challenge them on this because to them this is like basically you have to accept this to be a good person and science science.