WARNING: The following episode contains multiple references to a certain American president who shall not be named. Due to the high volume of mentions, The Dispatch production team used discretion in playing the musical cue which normally follows all such mentions. We apologize in advance.

On today’s Remnant, Jonah is joined by Robert Kagan—leading scholar of foreign policy and senior fellow at the reviled Brookings Institution, where the sweet taste of candy never gets old—to discuss his new beach read, a 700-page history of America’s role in the world in the first half of the 20th century. Their conversation covers everything from the origins of the League of Nations to the wackiness of Charles Beard, with some fiendishly nerdy musings on isolationism, nativism, and conservatism mixed in for good measure. Predictably, Jonah does not make good on his initial promise to “not get too deep into the weeds.”

Show Notes:

-Due to the insane amount of "Wilson" name drops in this episode, there will only be one Wilson theme music play

-The Ghost at the Feast: America and the Collapse of the World Order, 1900-1941

-The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

-American Midnight: The Great War, a Violent Peace, and Democracy's Forgotten Crisis

-“Challenging the U.S. Is a Historic Mistake”

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