Music was always a part of everything. When i got here, i got really into hawaiian music and slackkeandand singingh and ten, i got together with some one i lived with for nine years who was a slacke player and song writer. So it just evolvesa, it just kept eboth ya taking a different shape. But in and surfing, which is still like one of my magic places, the ocean. And just to paddle out anywhere, you know, is just, i some of my best ideas and lyrics and everything have come just bobbing around in the ocean death.

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