NewsGuard: A Mix of Journalism and Advertising

I think it's a mix of both. The only detour I really ever took from journalism was an idea that I got when I was writing a book about the aftermath of 9-11. And I started what's known as the Clear Registered Traveler Program in airports. With NewsGuard, I think it's very much the same thing. We have a program where we give our browser extension for free to all the public libraries that want it and we have over 900 now that are using it.