Tobias Barnica: I think ultimately that ability and maybe also playfulness in creating those new organisms will then enable us to go back and say, well, actually, now I understand much better about the rules in which I can combine those different elements. What does that tell me about what I think went on 2 billion years ago? Maybe sort of what you call it, learning by building, right? So you try to assemble the system, maybe use parts from our care and bacteria and eukaryotes to see how they cannot work together. Then end up with a much clearer understanding of the rules of life if you want and how they might have emerged ancestrally.

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