I'm Doing the Tough Thing, Right?

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I would much rather a lot play that role, you know, non politically than Trump in the civic sector. There's this like standing wave of culture and then someone decides to jump into it. So like Charlie Sheen was the first and he got like thrashed around and huge and then kind of spit out. And now I think that the greatest threat to Donald Trump is Elon Musk because if Elon Musk takes on the sort of anti Christ like quality that he is the one being martyred by civilization, then Trump loses that. You know, whoever is the troll in chief wins.

Paris Marx is joined by Douglas Rushkoff to discuss why internet visions of the 1990s were wrong to ignore corporate power, how the dot-com boom was like a Ponzi scheme, and why we desperately need to stop elevating tech billionaires.

Douglas Rushkoff is an author and documentarian who studies human autonomy in a digital age. His most recent book is Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires and he’s the host of Team Human podcast. You can follow him on Twitter at @rushkoff.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter, and support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham and part of the Harbinger Media Network.

Also mentioned in this episode:

An excerpt from Survival of the Richest was published in The Guardian.
Paris was recently on the Team Human podcast to discuss Road to Nowhere with Douglas.

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