I think a lot of people connected as soon as they kind of heard you and heard you talking to Joe And and freaking Joe. he's exposing himself, you know, not in the way that your friends do whatever the flashes You're hanging out with but exposing yourself We're on a we're on a text like a You know support chat, but yes So I think that was a huge thing that uh, I think a lots of people connected because his podcast is so massive and and he's such a good guy But then once one day I walked out of rogans and I said I needed to do something more like that.