543 - Deborah Eden Tull (Zen Teacher, Author: Luminous Darkness)
Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan
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The Human Shit Culture
"Shit is. What's the difference between shit and rich earth? You know? It's kind of the same thing," she says. "I was thinking i was going to this peaceful place to immediately drop into a the peace of zen, and instead had to face this angry, fiery a part of me." The late hunder wasser wrote about what he called 'the shit culture,' in which people push away their waste but don't understand how it affects the soil.
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