Start ups don't need help when they hit seventy five k a month, then it's just about growth and scaling and management issues. But that's not when start ups need help. And so i askd myself, who's actually doing this hard work any more? Who's actually helping the two persons start up? And i found two people who were doing that and had them on the pod cast. They got an incredible response from you the audience. So i wanted to try a new form at just a new form i as going to try today, which hus start ups that are inspiring us right now. I've brought back a daniel gross, who is from pioneer labs, which is