The south came from regions where they did have to ate a culture of honor to protect their ranches, or their herds of animals. Chicago's homicide problem is thus partly this thing, you kno makes oh, it's the state. It's repleacing. It's norms. It seems hard to change. But another way to look at it, a is that we see a lot of variation across, you s cities. And we all have very similar states, you know, policen and norms. Some of us sort of are better at figuring out how to handle those two thousand trigger pullers and others? Ah, either with carrots or with sticks.

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