"The zone gives you a chance to really reckon with that because the habit is to just go on with your normal life carry on with those society women and write your bullshit," he says. "I like to think that we purposefully fight that by putting out episodes that nobody wants to hear like this one maybe yeah" He also talks about how critics have shaped him into their own image which he wanted to change them. 'It's kind of slow but I mean when they're kind of running from the Jeep oh yeah yeah totally right it's a video game'

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