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Doing Hard Things Is Important, It's Valuable
Sally Kohn: You've been talking a lot about doing hard things recently. This is your current obsession, I guess. And one of the very interesting conversations that I had with Jocka Willink a few weeks ago on the show was he has radical responsibility and extreme ownership. Like even if it's not your fault, it's still your responsibility. But when you apply that same logic to people who already have a disposition that causes them to be type A, go getters that are over achieving and over attempting, that can actually be more of a negative. She says we need nuance on these conversations. It's easy to kind of point the finger at victim culture or man up