I want to come back to consciousness and how it leaves the body. I was sitting with my father in the hospital University of Pennsylvania Medical School as he was dying. He was 75 and it was congestive heart failure. So I sat with him and he just kept being so frightened. And I said, so what do you think happens when you die? And he said, nothing, dirt. No, I'm a scientist. The body dies and you turn to dirt. Yes. Whereas empathy is more understanding and being non-judgment. Yeah. Being with being with being with in some deep way.

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