Denver is a three day extravaganza with 18 speakers plus you and yay. It's going to say magicians and jugglers, but we don't have those. Some of them are new voices for our stage. People like Donald LaCha and Daniel Birka. Cassie McDaniel and Christina Halverson will also be speaking. We're not getting to everybody because, you know, a list of 18 names it's a little tiresome. And so there may be a morning of design talk and an afternoon of development talks.