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135 - Crypto Wars 2.0 with Zooko
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Privacy Is Normal, Zuko?
Zuko: The minute we start asking for privacy, there's pushback from people. Bad things like terrorists and criminals and despots have always been with us in every human society,. Zuko: Until this radical experiment of surveillance capitalism and surveillance government of the last two or three decades, there have been societies in which they tried to institute surveillance and control over everyone. But those were not the societies we want to live in.
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