I think empathy is really hard, not only between the 51 year olds and the 21 year olds, but even with ourselves. George lowenstein, one of my favorite behavior scientists, george has this term the hot, cold empathy gap. And it can happen even as simply as, you know, i go to the super market and i'm hungry. It's like angela and the snack isle, i'm just unable to sempathize with angela s not hungry. I also wonder if part of jenny's experience with these younger people, especially because she's a peer now. She's some one who, in her fifties, is going back to school, which