I find it remarkable that Eric was able to come up with such beautiful and original ideas even though he has been out of academia for so long yes doing wonderful things in other areas such as economics and finance. I wonder if there's something you could say sort of to further about this world that people might not be familiar with but I'm not sure I could be on it because I don't have an overarching theory of academia. It gives you great sense of security which comes with its own downside tooBecause you kind of like get a little disconnected from the real world because you get tenure so you feel financially secure. There is definitely there are definitely people who are upholding kind of that old tradition definitely and

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