There's a contingent of the academy that likes to vote for big populist popular beloved films. I feel like with all the attention over the last decade, Oscar so white and all these attempts to diversify, that's on the minds of the people voting. They want to project this new image. But okay. It doesn't have to do with, that's not what they're doing. The one that makes us feel best about our vote of that group is probably going to win.

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