Most of our government is proposing things which are generally known as decoupling, where we essentially stop the collaboration with China. So I don't think the model of essentially integration is going to work because the two political systems are fundamentally at odds and that drives them apart. And what I found in my negotiations, so I was the executive that was pro-staying in China. I lost that battle. Then negotiated for a decade to try to re-enter China under different terms and failed largely. If you were to give up one, which one would it be? It's Einstein that said imagination is more important than knowledge.

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