The Importance of Race in the British Working Class

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I think the fact that Irish people have been oppressed illustrates that when we think about race, it's not just the black and white or white and people of color quotation marks binary. I soon realized that this was completely nonsensical for a few reasons because many groups that are racialized as white still encounter racism. So anti Irish racism, the most obvious example is anti semitism, which I've written about recently. And those the labor MP that you john are going to that now.

Tomiwa Owolade is a writer and author of the forthcoming book This is Not America: Why Black Lives in Britain Matter.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tomiwa Owolade discuss how some popular forms of anti-racist thinking can obscure which groups are struggling most; how Labour MP Diane Abbott’s response to an article of Owolade’s in The Guardian led to the Labour MP’s formal censure by her party; and what Americans can learn from Britain on issues of race (and Britons from America).

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