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770: Sarah Edmondson & Nippy Ames | Surviving NXIVM Part One

The Jordan Harbinger Show

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Is This a Cult or a Curriculum?

Jordan Lerman: We found growing up in Nexium, there's a lot of common things that people would struggle with. He says it turned out to be like many self help groups and had this dark underbelly. Lerman: If you take the tools and put them in your life, you're fine. But if you make the tools, your life is when it becomes a problem.

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