In the second episode of this three-part series on female genital mutilation/cutting (FGM/C) in Kenya, host Anna Stoecklein and Kenyan journalist Evelyn Wambui explore the complex reasons why this practice persists despite its known harmful effects. The episode delves into the cultural, religious, and social forces that perpetuate FGM/C and the challenges faced by those who choose to break away from tradition.

From conversations with survivors, religious leaders, and a former cutter, this episode sheds insight into the powerful current of tradition and the remarkable courage required to break free from it. It also reveals how even as laws change, cultural norms can remain deeply entrenched, presenting unique challenges for those working to end the practice.

Content Warning

This series includes discussions of female genital mutilation/cutting (FGM/C), including personal accounts of physical and emotional trauma. These stories may be distressing or triggering for some listeners. Please take care while listening.

Topics Covered

The safety paradox: Why families and communities view FGM/C as keeping their daughters "safe"
Social consequences: The severe social repercussions faced by those who reject tradition
When laws aren't enough: The evolution of FGM/C through medicalization, modified practices, and cross-border cutting when legislation outpaces cultural change
Global backlash: Current attempts to repeal anti-FGM/C laws in countries like the Gambia and the broader implications for women's rights
The patriarchal undercurrent: How FGM/C connects to other gender equality struggles through shared root causes in patriarchal systems
Swimming against the current: The challenges of individual resistance to powerful cultural forces

Some names have been changed to protect the identities of individuals featured in this episode.

Featured Voices

Survivors & Community Members

Fariha: Somali survivor who advocates against FGM/C through conversations at her salon
Leila: Somali survivor and mother who explains community beliefs about female sexuality
Saitoti: Maasai community leader who faced backlash for marrying an uncut woman
Pauline: Former cutter from the Maasai community who now advocates against the practice
Osman: Religious leader who clarifies FGM/C has no basis in Islam

Experts

Sean Callaghan (Orchid Project): Head of Research and Capacity Strengthening
Kirigo Njenga (Orchid Project): Advocacy Officer
Evelyn Wambui: Field producer and translator for this series

Partner Organizations

⁠Orchid Project⁠: International NGO working at the forefront of the global movement to create a world free from FGM/C.
⁠COVAW⁠ (Coalition on Violence Against Women): National non-profit women’s rights organization responding to the silence of the Kenyan society in addressing Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG).
⁠Brighter Society Initiative⁠: Local Kenya NGO that works to empower the society beyond violence.

Transcription is available here

Support the Movement:

This series was created in partnership with Orchid Project, an international NGO working to end FGM/C globally. If you'd like to become part of the movement to end FGM/C and support the vital work that Orchid Project is doing, please consider making a donation. No matter how small, your contribution will help to create a future where women and girls live free from FGM/C.

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