You know, it's like for me, like I say it every time I'm asked about it. It's temporary insanity. I don't remember a whole lot about going out there and I look like a fool and you know, by the goodness of morning, he didn't end my life there. So I'll always be appreciative of that. But I think when when I reflect back and I see it brings back great memories for me because being associated with such great competitors, you know, so much of the game has changed and nothing has changed as far as what wins and what loses, you know, you've got to get, you know, more better shots than your opponents, right? So that's it's never changing and great defense and limiting your turnovers and winning the rebound battle and the same things went now that type of shots that may be considered good or not good have definitely changed. But it makes me always reflect back when I see those. You know, those clips is that what what someone couldn't have been more blessed to been a coach of the Knicks at that time because we had all time great competitors. I look back and I see, you know, Larry Johnson and Oakley and Ewing and Starks and Ward Harper and all those guys and I'm like, man, no one's ever been luckier than me when it comes to coaching. And that's what I reflect back on. You know, I don't really reflect on the fight, although, you know, I did look like a fool, but I do reflect back on so often just, you know, how grateful I am to have been part of that. That four year competition with the Heat playing to the last game for straight years. And a playoffs was truly it started out with great animosity, those series. And I think what it morphed into was by the end of that four years, incredible respect for the opponent because you know how much they were putting into it. You know how well they were coached. And so it was disdain turned into great respect. And for that, I'm eternally grateful. OK, so when

it was disdain, who did you disdain the most? Who was the member of the Heat? Would he just like looked at their face and like, I can't

I want to beat that guy so bad?