The Importance of Jumping In

Kathy: A lot of people in the beginning, they're very hesitant to taking those first steps or you don't even take a step, right? I think it's the community, the community that Bill started with his meetups and this is the community that IBD and Marcus Smith continue to foster today. And so later that year, Bill O'Neill came to the level three in Chicago, was in October of 2006. So even though I was a new investor, you know, everybody was going to the level 3 to see Bill, so I was like, well, I got to go too.