COP is about getting all of these countries around the table, right? And every country is in a different position. Every country fills the impacts of the effects of climate change differently. So I think really it is about getting everyone around the table and trying to find those consensus points. This is certainly not easy. Nothing to do with international diplomacy is ever easy. But we can look at things like the Paris Agreement and like the Glasgow Agreement and say that actually this process has been effective historically.

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